Nudism and Gay Incest: Father and Sons

It may be that those who don't have children (of either sex) might possibly 'project' what might be their own doubts (or fears or sexual inclinations) when they consider how gay or bisexual fathers could be perfectly comfortable being naked with their children (especially sons), or even want to make sure that they DO get the opportunity to learn / experience being comfortable naked with their dads and other men.

I don't ever recall having the slightest urge to 'know' my own sons biblically (i.e. in a

less than wholesome way) and never gave the first thought to being sexually attracted to them. I'd be less than honest to say that this was not always true about some of their high school friends and soccer teammates. However, I never ever acted on these thoughts - although I wouldn't morally condemn some man who did - that's not what the issue or the original question on this thread is about.

I'm not rejecting the possibility that some fathers could have more than an affectionate or fatherly interest in their sons, but I'd bet that most do not.

In my own case, there was no willful desire, ulterior motive or sinistre plan to let the boys see me (and my wife) naked. It was just a natural family thing. We did not raise them in Judeo-Christian religion-influenced America so that probably had a lot to do with reasons why it just seemed natural. We bathed together, went to public baths and hot springs resorts, and a few sometime visited nude beaches (or clothing-optional spots, in other countries - such as Greece and Munich's Englischergarten). Conversations sometimes included references to what they saw or were experiencing and there were the inevitable questions. But it was appropriate and in context - so it was a good way and good time to answer their questions: about sex or sexual attraction or feelings and behavior.

I think my sons today have a healthy respect for the human body and an amazing tolerance for diversity - including my own bisexuality, which evidently was even clear to them long before we actually told them.

I can't say that it's all attributable to our being nude together as a family but I think it was a contributing factor or at least just one in a long series of ways of thinking and ways of treating people and being nude that helped them to be open and honest about sexual issues, and not be morally uptight or self-righteous about gender, nudity and human sexual behavior.

They are both heterosexual and over 21-year-old male adults. I am talking about our being nude when they were infants, young boys and into the teenage years. We don't have as much occasion to get naked together these days.

Well... they do mean something.... what more can I say. I'll try.
I was TRYING to support you in the idea that being nude with your sons (or any kids) can be (even should be) something that's very natural and not a cause for alarm. (like some of the hyper-moralistic gay men are suggesting).

BUT .. it does depend on the situation (where you take them and what you 'show' them both physically and your own mental messages to the boys. And it also depends a lot on the boys' (children) own self-understanding and self-acceptance.
Hey, I'm not perfect. The 'idea' of a father and son being sexually involved is a secret fantasy. I enjoy reading Handjobs
http://www.hjmag.com/handjobs/ But it IS just fantasy material - I find I am not attracted at all to my own offspring. However, the thought has crossed my mind often enough about other fathers and their sons.

I think that all boys have at least one time or another (or maybe more than that) had to come to grips with the thought of their father as a sexual being or even an object of some kind of sexual emotions or physical intimacy. But they usually grow out (of it) and grow up (more interested in other things or girls (or guys) their own age before any attraction toward their dad is acted upon. Close to 90% of boys have experience with sexual 'play' with other boys - it's about being a male of the human species.

Fathers are likely to have experienced these same fleeting feelings (and then usually they passed ) and the realization about their sons growing up sexually. I noticed that the discussion has since about stopped. There was one point that had many people curious. You avoided answering the question about your son's ages. In today's climate of "anti-child predator" and all the media hype about child sexual abuse, and Internet child/teen sex / chat rooms etc, I realize you probably don't want to admit much of anything, but you could have said just that it's private or that it's not important to the gist of the discussion. By the way, I would not fault you if you did admit you enjoy being admired by your sons (I don't care what age they are).

Hope you can get what I meant.
Kelly

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Timberfell Lodge: Backwoods home to a great gay community in rural Tennessee

Join us for the CMNM events at the Mr. Timberfell Contest Weekend at Timberfell Lodge.

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I promised myself a good while back that I would write a review of Timberfell Lodge, the outdoorsy gay resort in the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains of east Tennessee. I made good on the promised, but it's now midwinter (again  -- funny how that became an annual occurrence), and Im already dreaming again of hot summer days and warm nights camping out at Timberfell.

Before the great memories fade completely, I will try to remember some of what occurred there during my first visit to Timberfell. It will definitely not be my last time to go.

Now that is mid-winter, I'm beginning to crave those long hot days of a Tennessee summer, and the sweltering nights of torrid passion that you can easily experience on an evening in rural Appalachia.

SPECIAL NOTE: Timberfell would make a great venue for a Daddy-Boy Retreat or a CMNM Weekend, complete with circus tent for live role-plays and exhibitions. I think I'm going to try to get one started there for summer this year or next -- hopefully during August (between Mr. Timberfell Contest Weekend and Labor Day) -- perhaps in conjunction with these or another existing annual event on the Timberfell calendar.

Although it is located in rural Tennessee, there is most everything you'd want to have at the resort grounds: a nice dining room, a variety of accommodations (from camping to deluxe rooms), plenty of men of all ages and body types, different races, persuasions, and passions. There are lots of nooks and crannies for anonymous sex, a great sense of community, and isolation from the main street (a county road)  for complete nudity, plus reasonable rates, exciting home-spun events with enough technicality to be enjoyable,... and more.

There is while isn't still time this season (Winter 2015) to camp out, they do have rooms and a bunk-bed dorm for the less outdoorsy.
Labor Day Weekend in September, long gone now, was one of their biggest annual events, and the last major one before the pool closes later that month, followed on by their annual Cocktobear-Fest in October. There are few more events during the winter season, but when the weather starts to warm up, that's when things getting boiling hot in the Great Ol' Outdoors at Timberfell Lodge and Campground.

What's hot and what is there to do?

1) Bears galore - If you're into them, you'll have a large assortment to dazzle your fancy. There are other types of guys too.. like me (gray fox), and otters, panthers, and wily coyotes, too. There are NOT too many twinks, however (awhhh!) every once in  a while, a slim twinky-type does make an appearance, so a car-load of youngish, collegiate-looking dudes waltz in proudly onto the property. It just depends.

When I attended the Mr. Timberfell Contest Weekend, there were only 4 young men (20s), who were there because one of them (a hunky stud) was competing for the title.
I'd say the average age is 45 - and there are plenty of older men, and quite a lot of younger ones 30 - 45. But only a few below 29. I did meet a 20-year-old who was into older guys, and a 70-something dude who was into younger (tweens). It's all relative.. after all.

2) The location is rather isolated, which means you have drive a while from the nearest town.  But it also means that you can be nude anywhere on the resort (except the dining room).

3) There is a festive gay atmosphere for the weekend events; it's pretty laid back during the

weekdays, but it really depends on who's visiting at the resort, and who is staying at one of the two trailer/camping car mini-communities located adjacent to the Timberfell property.

4) The bar is open to outsiders, day visitors, and to guests, as are some of the nighttime events, so there is a chance you can encounter some enchanted stranger for a hot evening of sex under the stars or some fraternal nude swimming during the day in the medium-sized pool and sunbathing terrace.

5) Having sex is not guaranteed but highly likely if you've got what it takes (smile). Public sex is    not allowed, but there was plenty going on in the private areas.         (Above photo is the blog author)

6) While it 'ain't the Ritz', there are fairly nice facilities at  the resort.  BYOB (bring your own bottle) is allowed for wine and hard liquor. Since they sell beer, you cannot bring beer in the resort (private

tents and rooms excepted,) but you can buy beer there in the canteen.  The food served is like a home-style buffet - if you're not really a camp-style cook, you can purchase and meal plan, or just buy tickets for individual meals.  The pool and large sun deck, sauna,  and steam room  can get active - especially at night - they are open all night for your pleasure (smile).

7) The best thing was meeting the great guys - I had great conversations and still managed to get off at the right time

Costs: Check it out online - but campsite $15 for 1 person per night, breakfast $6, dinner $20, poolside beer $3, snacks $3
From camping (in a tent or camper), to a bunk in the bunkhouse, to a room with shared toilet, to a fine private bedroom with private bath. It's all up to you! They have events all year long - even when it's too cold to camp outdoors. So you should book early.

ADDED Bonus: The events are not very expensive, and day-guests are abundant on weekends. Also, there is actually a community of gay men who live (and a few work on site) at the resort full-time, particularly in the summer months. There are rentable trailer and RV sites for those who want a live-in gay nude resort experience 24/7.

Find out more at:
www.timberfell.com/home/

You have to realize that Timberfell is way back in rural, Bible-belt America. If you drive passed it, (easily to do since its unmarked except for the street number), you'll end up in one of the most redneck parts of Tennessee, where the regular pastime could well be cornholing unsuspecting Yankee tourists, a la Deliverance (see film / novel of the same name) . However, Timberfell Lodge is a little gay oasis where bear-mauling truckers, silver-maned bikers, beefy jarheads, countryfied southern gentry, and white trailer trash all mingle rather happily, mostly naked around the pool or guzzling moonshine (not actually) in the dance-hall tavern-bar just up the hill.

Maybe we can get a group of interested people from Tribe.net to convene for some down-home fun and good times. Hey, ya'll come, y'hear!

( originally posted on Tribe.net on Sept. 4, 2010, now with revisions Jan. 25, 2015)

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Previous Post about the Mr. Timberfell Contest Event to be held next on August 7-9, 2015, at Timberfell Lodge near Greeneville, TN, actually near  the North Carolina border and gateway to the Appalachian Mountains.)


Come out to the woods and get naked, my friends. The weekend of August 7-9, 2015, is the annual Mr. Timberfell Competition.

Tucked deep in a hollow of the Southern Appalachians is Timberfell Lodge, a paradise for men seeking either solitude or camaraderie with their gay brothers and where inhibitions are shed as easily as clothing…

www.timberfell.com/home/

What is There to Do at Timberfell?

After breakfast and conversations lingering over fresh-brewed coffee, guests head for the pool, hike the gentle or more demanding trails circling the lodge property, or do nothing at all. This is when camaraderie is strongest and new friendships are forged. If the thought of getting dirt on your dock siders or having your hair mussed by tree branches drives you crazy, there are a number of alternatives to a wilderness walk.

Swim in the large, 20′ by 40′ heated clothing-optional pool or simply watch while sunbathing. Relax in the steam room or redwood sauna. Towels are provided for guests’ convenience while at the pool.

You can to relax in a heavenly 20-man sauna or “plunk” on the oversized porch and watch the sun setting between the mountains. There are some music / party/ dance events planned (clothing required), as well as the special activities around the Mr. Timberfell Competition, with a Benefit Mixer (free drinks with $5 donation) on Sat. Aug 8, from 2-4pm. Followed by the main event, the Mr. Timberfell Pageant later that evening.

Some CMNM events that could possibly be held at Timberfell, although they are not sponsored or endorsed by the lodge, but are privately organized by the some of the Mr. Timberfell Weekend attendees. Moreover, there are multiple acres of property and enough private areas (sauna) where CMNM interactions can occur. Some special events like strip poker, truth and dare, costume parties and role plays are planned during this Mr. Timberfell weekend, August 7 - 9.  Plus, there will be plenty of time to enjoy the natural environment and the gay men's social events arranged for the weekend.

SPECIAL EVENT:   Saturday, August 8, 2015,  Annual Mr. Timberfell Competition and Benefit Mixer,

Last year’s competition was the HOTTEST ever with more than 15 men competing for cash, lodging prizes and the coveted title of Mr. Timberfell. This a big weekend with great parties and music.

A benefit event, the Leather and Cocktails Charity Mixer, will be held from 2-4pm on August 14, entrance $5 donation, free drinks, silent auction, and music by Ft. Lauderdale DJ, Dr. D.

There are variety of accommodations from primitive camping to cabins or bunkbed dorm rooms. Book early to get your choice of rooms. Meal plans are available the including breakfast and dinner.
Beer is available for purchase or bring your own wines and hard liquor.
Interested contestants call our office or email Timberfell for details at their site:

www.timberfell.com/home/contact-us


Timberfell Lodge

Driving address: 2240 Van Hill Road, Greeneville, TN 37745 (actually about 2 miles or less from the US 81 interchange, north on Baileyton Rd).

Mailing address: 1416 Baileyton Main St, Greeneville, TN 37745
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Contact us by Phone or Fax:
Lodge: (423) 234-0833
Fax: (423) 234-8512
Toll-Free: (800) 437-0118
I'm staying in downtown Nashville the one night before driving northeast. Let me hear from you on Tribe.net, via email or thru grou.ps/cmnm

Location:
Timberfell Lodge (and Campground) is located about 65 miles further east from Knoxville off of Interstate Hwy 81. So it's about a 4-hour from Nashville, and roughly more or less 4 hours from Atlanta, Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina. If driving, take Interstate 81 South to Exit 36 (Baileyton/Greeneville). Then drive north on Route 172 toward Baileyton to the Shell Station Truck Stop. From the truck stop, travel 2 mile, turn right at wide gravel drive, proceed through gate, follow driveway all the way to the main lodge approximately 3/4 mile.

Actual address: 2240 Van Hill Road, Greeneville, TN 37745

Contact Club CMNM Event Organizer at:  sunbunz (@) gmail.com
Club CMNM Events:   http://clubcmnm_events.eventbrite.com